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2-7 2:05:02	soccrdad30	I don't like to bid on ebay loco's unless they have been tested
2-7 2:04:25	soccrdad30	I think everything MTl is a 'collectors item'
2-7 2:03:59	soccrdad30	nite Ellen
2-7 2:03:23	rvn2001	Nite Ellen.
2-7 2:03:17	GNFan	ZU, Ellen.
2-7 2:02:58	ejshelton	On that note.....I'm out of here. Nite all
2-7 2:02:48	rvn2001	They're "Collector's Items" now.
2-7 2:02:37	GNFan	(Tonight is not my night for typing1)
2-7 2:02:16	soccrdad30	MTL F7's are on ebay at a higher price
2-7 2:01:45	soccrdad30	there is one guy who sells locomotives that he bought brand new and resells them untested at a higher price
2-7 2:01:43	GNFan	unaware
2-7 2:01:29	GNFan	Yup. I imagine that every once in a while, someone who is aware of the market price will pay too much, justifying the seller's gamble.
2-7 1:59:41	soccrdad30	very true Mike, but there are still a few sellers out there that jack their prices very high
2-7 1:59:14	GNFan	will go to
2-7 1:58:52	GNFan	As the aftermarket supply dwindles, I imagine the going rate will to "let's see if anyone bites at this high price".
2-7 1:56:48	soccrdad30	I seen them all over the board in pricing, but I don't think anything over 200.00 sells
2-7 1:56:23	GNFan	It was an outrageous price from the start!
2-7 1:55:16	GNFan	It wouldn't surprise me (much)!
2-7 1:54:40	soccrdad30	but that would be too outrageous of a price
2-7 1:54:20	soccrdad30	some may try that Mike
2-7 1:53:12	GNFan	....creeping back up to the original price of $599?
2-7 1:52:31	soccrdad30	and now some are on ebay going for hundreds of dollars
2-7 1:51:45	GNFan	It does make a certain amount of sense: do they anticipate the need for 50, 500, or 5000 of some item. They don't want to be stuck with a warehouse (albeit a small one) of commuter sets like AZL did. It took them many years to deplete the supply.
2-7 1:51:04	rvn2001	I don't plan to pre-order anything.
2-7 1:49:23	soccrdad30	AZL will make x amount of items for general sales, but on specific items they may do the pre-order process
2-7 1:48:37	soccrdad30	yea, sounds like it will be a standard business model
2-7 1:47:50	GNFan	Okay. It sounds as if we'll face the same with future products same as before/same as other scales.
2-7 1:47:38	soccrdad30	I would love to see some reprints of their popular RR's
2-7 1:45:59	soccrdad30	I still get their emails, but hardly buy anything from them any more
2-7 1:45:31	soccrdad30	Mike, I believe the buyer had to put a deposit down. Modeltrainstuff, requires a 10% down on new releases/pre-orders
2-7 1:44:12	GNFan	...scales?
2-7 1:43:48	GNFan	How does "Atlas-Atlas" (so to speak) handle things in other scales. IIRC track and other stuff wasn't pre-order/deposit.
2-7 1:42:30	soccrdad30	I miss that man and the Z
2-7 1:42:13	soccrdad30	I know when Loren was selling MTL he would give 25% discount from SRP
2-7 1:41:44	soccrdad30	same here Thom
2-7 1:41:35	rvn2001	I would hope they keep their distributors.
2-7 1:40:48	soccrdad30	Or even Frank
2-7 1:40:40	soccrdad30	I even wonder if Anthony is still in the loop to sell
2-7 1:40:11	GNFan	It shows commitment/seriousness, I guesss.
2-7 1:40:05	soccrdad30	not sure how that works, have to have a lawyer read the fine print... LOL
2-7 1:38:58	rvn2001	I'm guessing that you don't get your money back if you don't buy when the item is in stock.
2-7 1:38:20	soccrdad30	I believe so, some require 10%
2-7 1:37:54	rvn2001	So...do you make a deposit when you pre-order?
2-7 1:36:09	soccrdad30	I will make one focus on their purchases faster
2-7 1:34:22	rvn2001	It will take some getting used to.
2-7 1:32:53	soccrdad30	I am so used to just buying what I see and when
2-7 1:31:24	rvn2001	I guess so.
2-7 1:31:05	soccrdad30	and it looks like I will have to get used to their preorder process for future Z
2-7 1:30:05	soccrdad30	they are still hyping HO and N weathered rollingstock
2-7 1:30:04	rvn2001	I saw that.

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