| 9-4 0:58:47 | soccrdad30 | Hello Thom |
| 5-4 18:11:37 | GNFan | I have some tasks, so I'm going to join Thom in heading for the door. Bye, Doug. |
| 5-4 18:09:36 | GNFan | Bye, Thom. |
| 5-4 18:09:27 | GNFan | Thom, you're a Z pioneer. |
| 5-4 18:09:16 | rvn2001 | Well guyz, I gotta go. Z y'all later. |
| 5-4 18:08:28 | GNFan | My living spaces have always been small, so Z became my scale when I learned it existed. |
| 5-4 18:07:29 | rvn2001 | My first was a Marklin starter set from a local hobby shop in 1972. |
| 5-4 18:06:47 | GNFan | My first was a Marklin starter set I picked up after the NTS in Seattle (2004?). The second was my first Sounder commuter set. |
| 5-4 18:05:24 | rvn2001 | The late Bill Kronenberger was involved in that and said the same thing. |
| 5-4 18:05:00 | GNFan | (End of NMRA lament) |
| 5-4 18:04:22 | GNFan | At one point, I recall Joe D (of MTL) saying they tried to start the process of an NMRA standard for Z (track, especially). But after a long process that came up with a proposed standard everyone could live with, NMRA said, in effect, "that's nice....now do it all again under our watchful eye", even though the proposed standard was already (seemingly) complete. Joe was miffed. |
| 5-4 18:02:22 | rvn2001 | I still don't have one of those sets. |
| 5-4 18:01:11 | DAZed | My first real temptation was at the OKC show, where there was an MKT SD40-2 at a good price. But I held off. But when AZL had the F59/Bombardier sets for $99, I couldn't pass that up. |
| 5-4 18:00:01 | rvn2001 | That's true, Doug. That's why I'm doing the Nn3 stuff for one of them. |
| 5-4 17:59:54 | DAZed | that is how it started with me...a couple of guys in my N group had some Z, and they kept telling me I should jump in. |
| 5-4 17:59:22 | DAZed | I think many N scalers enjoy Z, and also some dabble in Z on the side. |
| 5-4 17:58:28 | rvn2001 | I've been told that I'm the hit of the show at the show I do in Kirkwood. They've even invited me to join them for their group dinner after the show. They group is a group of N scale modellers. They seem to be way more "tolerant". I think they might even like it. |
| 5-4 17:55:57 | rvn2001 | Thoze of us not in HO have been fighting that for decades. |
| 5-4 17:55:15 | GNFan | Reluctant tolerance, that is..... |
| 5-4 17:54:46 | rvn2001 | I agree. |
| 5-4 17:54:28 | GNFan | They seem like an acquired taste, plus an HO club with tolerance for other scales. |
| 5-4 17:47:29 | rvn2001 | I'm glad I quit being a member a few years ago. |
| 5-4 17:46:12 | GNFan | Speculation could be running wild... |
| 5-4 17:41:29 | rvn2001 | yup |
| 5-4 17:41:19 | GNFan | So thus far they're being vague/mysterious. |
| 5-4 17:39:37 | rvn2001 | They didn't say what the changes would be. |
| 5-4 17:39:08 | GNFan | I missed that about NMRA. I'll have to go back and look. |
| 5-4 17:38:07 | rvn2001 | Well......a little.....maybe. |
| 5-4 17:37:47 | GNFan | No time spent thumb twiddling? |
| 5-4 17:37:24 | rvn2001 | I've seen on Facebook that the N.M.R.A. is going to be making big changes. |
| 5-4 17:36:26 | rvn2001 |
It will give you something to do  |
| 5-4 17:35:30 | GNFan |
I will accept this mantle of responsibility calmly and soberly. |
| 5-4 17:34:25 | rvn2001 | Mike will just have to be the roving reporter for the Z scale community. |
| 5-4 17:31:53 | GNFan | The Steve I mean is Steve Eichman (Steve's Z Layouts), not Atlas. |
| 5-4 17:30:51 | GNFan | Indeed so. I can't imagine what the offense would be - parking seems minor. But that's just me. |
| 5-4 17:29:51 | DAZed | or different Steve |
| 5-4 17:29:18 | DAZed | So Mike, you are friends with the Steve at Atlas? |
| 5-4 17:28:56 | rvn2001 | We did have words about layout display groups paying for parking last year. |
| 5-4 17:27:58 | rvn2001 | It would be a shame if Bill Grove was punishing the whole Z community because he had an attitude about me. |
| 5-4 17:26:54 | rvn2001 | Yup, that's the main reason the layouts are there. |
| 5-4 17:26:23 | GNFan | That's my plan, Thom. Having Z layouts present helps Steve's, AZL's and Atlas's customer-interest/sales - they feed on each other. |
| 5-4 17:24:11 | rvn2001 | Either Z or me. |
| 5-4 17:23:54 | GNFan | Sounds as if Z is being snubbed. |
| 5-4 17:23:49 | rvn2001 | You can still go with Steve and look at all of the big stuff, Mike. |
| 5-4 17:22:29 | rvn2001 | No reply to my email and no phone call to confirm our participation. I've gotten calls in the past when I didn't apply asking if I was planning to have an area. I haven't gotten one of those either. |
| 5-4 17:19:38 | GNFan | Well, rats! |
| 5-4 17:18:04 | rvn2001 | No news on NTS. I'm fairly convinced that we're not included. I'm waiting for the list to come out on the NMRA NTS web site before I give up totally. |
| 5-4 17:17:11 | rvn2001 | I'm still running trains...I'm just not working on any train projects right now. |
| 5-4 17:16:42 | GNFan | Thom, any news on NTS? |
| 5-4 17:15:45 | rvn2001 | True |
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